Top view of stair, small

Peggy's Spiral Stair


Ladder access We got real tired of climbing a ladder through a 24"x36" hatchway to get to Peggy's weaving studio, storage space and my drafting table.

I really didn't want to lose any more space than neccessary on the main shop floor so we agreed to attempt a spiral stair.

Central support pipe, separate, slip-over tread support units, 2"x10" un-planed plank treads, ca. 130" rise, 1-1/4 turns, 12 treads per turn, ca. 28" treads, 61" opening in the upper floor.
The individual treads are 4" schedule 40 pipe segments a bit over 8" long with a support bracket welded on. The bracket material is some kind of m/s machine housing panel from the scrap yard, slightly less than 1/8" thick. The advantage to this approach is that each unit can be built in a jig on the bench  ——  no overhead welding, no trying to get unreachable bits alignned properly.

Two tread support units on the bench

The bracket material was 24"x36" so I had it sheared into 24"x9" rectangles. The guys with the big break couldn't bend them up to the desired shape without distortion to I had them do this:


Pile of tread units ready to install Then I welded the sheared-off piece back on to form the bracket. This automatically comes out to make a right-angle bracket if it's put on edges up.

The tread units slide over a central 3-1/2" OD steel pipe that is bolted at the bottom with concrete anchors and braced in two directions at the top with HSS braces. The pole stands free while the treads are dropped on. One brace then clamps to the pipe and the other is attached with a socket and set screw. Having two parts makes it much easier to put the brace in place from a ladder without a helper. After everything is in place, the setscrew joint is welded. Pole and brace elements
Bearing and collet tool The central pole is 3-1/2" OD and 1/2" thick, some kind of extra-heavy duty steam (?) pipe for oil drilling with stupendous pressure and torque specs. Since I'm not a wizard welder, I wanted a real nice joint when I welded two pieces together to get the full height required. So I jiggered up this motor, gearbox, bearing and collet affair to rotate the piece of pipe at ca. 10 RPM. With the other end of the pipe in a chain-and-roller sling, I could just sit there with the grinder on the metal while the pipe rotated and get a beautiful bevel for a full-thickness weld on the 1/2" thick pipe.

4 treads in place First four treads are in place. Tread #4 is anchored to the wall for added stability. I worried that as the treads were lowered on, while there was no support at the top of the pipe, things might get out of balance and that 10' lever arm might lever the anchors out of the concrete floor. So I got this wall attachment in place before treads 5 to 15 were dropped onto the free-standing pipe.


Assembled stair in place Tread, braces and landing in place. Three additional 1/8"x2" hangers at 3, 6 and 9 o'clock. No hand rail yet. I hope to use some old hawser but haven't figured out how to do it yet. As a temporary safety measure, there's a vertical 2x6 (not shown) in the one place where a misstep could be fatal.

So there it is.

View from above Mike on stair


One interesting point: I didn't make any attempt to get the 4" pipe segments perfectly aligned with each other on the 3-1/2" pipe. The 4" pipe segments are 3-9/16" ID giving 1/16" clearance. If the tread units are allowed to cock by that much, all the weight of the user is taken by the pipe itself, not by the welds. The only forces on the welds that join the segments is horizontal. That's a pretty small shear force on the welds. So a few small welds between segments is sufficient to keep the treads from rotating.


Updated: Fri 05 Aug 2005  ——  Mike Spencer